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They are the Bofors 152mm that you find on "Tre Kronor" class. They are AA guns!! (But I have to edit the caliber on those guns...)


shall fix that to
Most likely 70 calibers
Fixing and thanks for tips.

BTW. The Norwegian 105 mm is similar type of gun to the British 4"/45 (10.2 cm) QF Mark V and Mark XV, and those guns had an AA Ceiling 80 degrees. The Norwegian guns was a bit different but how much I don't know. But I know they was build as simple as possible. And during the start of the Invasion of Norway they destroyed a couple Germans planes with these guns.
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is this better:

harald hardraade class, Norway Cruiser laid down 1943

Displacement:
7 624 t light; 8 031 t standard; 9 796 t normal; 11 209 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(605,52 ft / 583,99 ft) x 54,63 ft x (19,69 / 21,86 ft)
(184,56 m / 178,00 m) x 16,65 m x (6,00 / 6,66 m)

Armament:
3 - 5,98" / 152 mm 53,0 cal guns - 114,86lbs / 52,10kg shells, 300 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mount, 1943 Model
1 x Triple mount on centreline, forward deck forward
4 - 5,98" / 152 mm 53,0 cal guns - 114,86lbs / 52,10kg shells, 300 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1943 Model
2 x Twin mounts on centreline, aft evenly spread
4 - 4,13" / 105 mm 45,0 cal guns - 35,63lbs / 16,16kg shells, 200 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck mounts, 1943 Model
2 x Twin mounts on centreline, forward evenly spread
12 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 60,0 cal guns - 2,14lbs / 0,97kg shells, 3 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1943 Model
2 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
4 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
20 - 0,79" / 20,0 mm 70,0 cal guns - 0,27lbs / 0,12kg shells, 6 000 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1943 Model
4 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
6 x Twin mounts on sides, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 978 lbs / 443 kg
Main Torpedoes
6 - 24,0" / 610 mm, 3,00 ft / 0,91 m torpedoes - 0,444 t each, 2,662 t total
In 2 sets of deck mounted side rotating tubes
Mines
1 - 661,39 lbs / 300,00 kg mine + 40 reloads - 12,106 t total
in Above water - Stern racks/rails
Main DC/AS Mortars
2 - 440,92 lbs / 200,00 kg Depth Charges + 100 reloads - 20,078 t total
in Depth charge throwers
2nd DC/AS Mortars
1 - 440,92 lbs / 200,00 kg Depth Charge + 50 reloads - 10,039 t total
in Stern depth charge racks

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 2,00" / 51 mm 290,35 ft / 88,50 m 8,86 ft / 2,70 m
Ends: 1,00" / 25 mm 290,33 ft / 88,49 m 8,86 ft / 2,70 m
3,31 ft / 1,01 m Unarmoured ends
Upper: 1,00" / 25 mm 290,35 ft / 88,50 m 8,00 ft / 2,44 m
Main Belt covers 76 % of normal length
Main belt does not fully cover magazines and engineering spaces

- Hull void:
0,00" / 0 mm 0,00 ft / 0,00 m 0,00 ft / 0,00 m

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1,20" / 30 mm - -
2nd: 1,20" / 30 mm - -

- Protected deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 1,20" / 30 mm
Forecastle: 1,50" / 38 mm Quarter deck: 1,50" / 38 mm

- Conning towers: Forward 0,50" / 13 mm, Aft 0,00" / 0 mm

Machinery:
Oil fired boilers, steam turbines,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 100 590 shp / 75 040 Kw = 33,99 kts
Range 8 000nm at 20,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 3 177 tons

Complement:
492 - 640

Cost:
£4,486 million / $17,945 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 233 tons, 2,4 %
- Guns: 170 tons, 1,7 %
- Weapons: 63 tons, 0,6 %
Armour: 972 tons, 9,9 %
- Belts: 414 tons, 4,2 %
- Armament: 4 tons, 0,0 %
- Armour Deck: 549 tons, 5,6 %
- Conning Tower: 5 tons, 0,1 %
Machinery: 2 598 tons, 26,5 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 3 574 tons, 36,5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 2 172 tons, 22,2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 250 tons, 2,6 %
- Hull below water: 50 tons
- Hull void weights: 50 tons
- Hull above water: 50 tons
- On freeboard deck: 50 tons
- Above deck: 50 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
14 190 lbs / 6 437 Kg = 132,4 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 4,7 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,18
Metacentric height 2,8 ft / 0,8 m
Roll period: 13,8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 70 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,20
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,17

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low quarterdeck ,
a normal bow and small transom stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,546 / 0,563
Length to Beam Ratio: 10,69 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 25,78 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 60 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 60
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 24,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 9,84 ft / 3,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 20,00 %, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Forward deck: 20,00 %, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Aft deck: 30,00 %, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m, 22,97 ft / 7,00 m
- Quarter deck: 30,00 %, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m, 16,40 ft / 5,00 m
- Average freeboard: 21,26 ft / 6,48 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 94,7 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 201,6 %
Waterplane Area: 22 726 Square feet or 2 111 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 141 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 93 lbs/sq ft or 454 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 1,00
- Longitudinal: 1,79
- Overall: 1,06
Adequate machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Ship has slow, easy roll, a good, steady gun platform

The bofors 152mm/53 Modell 1942 was indeed the ones used on the TK and GL. And they were DP guns, not solely AA guns. Don't remember wether they were fully automatic or not(My reason for not knowing for certain wether they should be counted as Dual Purpose or Auto Rapid Fire Guns in SS)(Örlogsfartyg: Svenska Maskindrivna Fartyg under Tretungad Flagg states that they were fully automatic, but I seem to recall that other source(s) has stated that they were only semi-automatic).

I don´t suppose this cruiser of yours will in any way be the successor to my Nowegian light cruiser?

nope! This is based on what if.

This is what I have for now. are still working on it, but I think it's more important for me to finish off some real world drawings.



this class of vessels should be the back bone of the Royal Norwegian navy, alongside, the much slower 5-10 years older Coastal defense ships (Artillery ships).

the Cruiser should work alongside the Sleipner class Destroyers, and the 1700 ton heavy Destroyer leader.


I am working on an name for this class of vessels. My idea is to call the class for: "Den Norske Löve Klassen" ("The Norwegian Lion class")

The ship need a crest, there are some different types of crest I can use, but these are the best ones I can find (Oh witch do you think I shall go for?):

1. The royal King Crest 1905:


2. Norwegian coat of arms 1733:


3. Norway's coat of arms as it was approved by King Oscar I 10 July 1844:


4. National and royal weapon drawn by Eilif Peterssen, introduced by Royal Decree. 14th December 1905:



BTW. I would litarly love that person that can make an Perfect crest for me, with motto and everything for it.

Sounds like a challenge Heuhen!

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I had that topic stopped and closed since people starting to spam me to draw everything... and I only did want to draw 5 ships.


But I shall see if I can draw you'rs soon. But first I have some real world drawings to do.

are you up to it

I hope so! I've done nearly 20 COAs to date so I hope that's good enough practice

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How to mentally pronounce my usernameRow-(as in a boat)Don-(as in the short form of Donald)Dough-(bread)
"Loitering on the High Seas" (Named after the good ship Rodondo)
There's no such thing as "nothing left to draw" If you can down 10 pints and draw, you're doing alright by my standards