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Post subject: Re: Ships of the Russian Black Sea FleetPosted: February 11th, 2017, 10:30 am
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Post subject: Re: Ships of the Russian Black Sea FleetPosted: February 11th, 2017, 5:11 pm
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Post subject: Re: Ships of the Russian Black Sea FleetPosted: February 12th, 2017, 6:28 am
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Indeed great drawings. :)


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Post subject: Re: Ships of the Russian Black Sea FleetPosted: February 12th, 2017, 7:48 am
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Post subject: Re: Ships of the Russian Black Sea FleetPosted: February 13th, 2017, 10:56 pm
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Managed to fix this - you had too many guns unnecessarily superfiring which was most of the problem...

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Tri Sviatitelia, Russian Battleship laid down 1891

Displacement:
10,896 t light; 11,353 t standard; 11,998 t normal; 12,513 t full load

Dimensions: Length overall / water x beam x draught
377.46 ft / 377.46 ft x 73.00 ft x 28.38 ft (normal load)
115.05 m / 115.05 m x 22.25 m x 8.65 m

Armament:
4 - 12.01" / 305 mm guns (2x2 guns), 865.70lbs / 392.67kg shells, 1891 Model
Breech loading guns in turrets (on barbettes)
on centreline ends, evenly spread
8 - 5.98" / 152 mm guns in single mounts, 107.15lbs / 48.60kg shells, 1891 Model
Breech loading guns in casemate mounts
on side, all amidships
4 - 4.72" / 120 mm guns in single mounts, 52.72lbs / 23.91kg shells, 1891 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts with hoists
on side ends, evenly spread, all raised mounts - superfiring
10 - 1.85" / 47.0 mm guns in single mounts, 3.17lbs / 1.44kg shells, 1891 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, 6 raised mounts
40 - 1.46" / 37.0 mm guns (10x4 guns), 1.55lbs / 0.70kg shells, 1891 Model
Quick firing guns in deck mounts
on side, evenly spread, all raised mounts
Weight of broadside 4,625 lbs / 2,098 kg
Shells per gun, main battery: 80
6 - 15.0" / 381 mm submerged torpedo tubes

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 18.0" / 457 mm 246.06 ft / 75.00 m 8.20 ft / 2.50 m
Ends: 9.02" / 229 mm 33.63 ft / 10.25 m 8.20 ft / 2.50 m
97.77 ft / 29.80 m Unarmoured ends
Main Belt covers 100 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 16.0" / 406 mm 10.8" / 275 mm 13.8" / 350 mm
2nd: 5.00" / 127 mm - -
3rd: 0.79" / 20 mm 0.79" / 20 mm 1.97" / 50 mm

- Armour deck: 2.01" / 51 mm, Conning tower: 12.01" / 305 mm

Machinery:
Coal fired boilers, complex reciprocating steam engines,
Direct drive, 2 shafts, 10,012 ihp / 7,469 Kw = 17.00 kts
Range 3,500nm at 10.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 1,161 tons (100% coal)

Complement:
573 - 745

Cost:
£1.122 million / $4.487 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 578 tons, 4.8 %
Armour: 3,917 tons, 32.6 %
- Belts: 1,708 tons, 14.2 %
- Torpedo bulkhead: 0 tons, 0.0 %
- Armament: 1,367 tons, 11.4 %
- Armour Deck: 706 tons, 5.9 %
- Conning Tower: 136 tons, 1.1 %
Machinery: 1,820 tons, 15.2 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 4,581 tons, 38.2 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 1,101 tons, 9.2 %
Miscellaneous weights: 0 tons, 0.0 %

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
13,787 lbs / 6,254 Kg = 15.9 x 12.0 " / 305 mm shells or 1.9 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.15
Metacentric height 4.0 ft / 1.2 m
Roll period: 15.3 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 60 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.61
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 2.00

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck
Block coefficient: 0.537
Length to Beam Ratio: 5.17 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 19.43 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 46 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 30
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): -14.00 degrees
Stern overhang: -4.10 ft / -1.25 m
Freeboard (% = measuring location as a percentage of overall length):
- Stem: 21.33 ft / 6.50 m
- Forecastle (20 %): 21.33 ft / 6.50 m
- Mid (50 %): 21.33 ft / 6.50 m
- Quarterdeck (15 %): 21.33 ft / 6.50 m
- Stern: 21.33 ft / 6.50 m
- Average freeboard: 21.33 ft / 6.50 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 91.2 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 134.7 %
Waterplane Area: 18,997 Square feet or 1,765 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 98 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 151 lbs/sq ft or 736 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 0.85
- Longitudinal: 3.99
- Overall: 1.00
Hull space for machinery, storage, compartmentation is adequate
Room for accommodation and workspaces is excellent
Excellent seaboat, comfortable, can fire her guns in the heaviest weather

TT's in bow, stern and 4 beam.


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Post subject: Re: Ships of the Russian Black Sea FleetPosted: February 17th, 2017, 5:55 pm
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Hello again

Evstafiy-class battleships

These two vessels were three-quarter sisters of Potemkin-Tavrisheskiy, featuring the same size, protection and speed. The most important change was the replacement of the forecastle-deck level 152mm guns with casemated 203mm pieces and the replacement of Potemkin's heavy conical foremast with a much thinner one. They took over six years to complete and were commissioned in 1911 without fighting tops and a very austere bridge.

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Both were frequently employed agains the Ottoman navy and received the usual upgrades: The charthouse was removed entirely, the tertiary battery was cut to four 75mm pieces, and two HA guns (imported 40mm pompoms) came on board.

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Both were captured by the Germans in May 1918, by the Brits in November 1918, by the Reds in April 1919, by the Whites in June 1919 and again by the Reds in November 1920; each owner demolished them a little bit more until they were quite beyond repair and were scrapped in 1922 and 1923, respectively.

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GRISHA-II
Post subject: Re: Ships of the Russian Black Sea FleetPosted: February 18th, 2017, 7:39 am
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excellent work.


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Post subject: Re: Ships of the Russian Black Sea FleetPosted: February 18th, 2017, 8:54 am
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Post subject: Re: Ships of the Russian Black Sea FleetPosted: February 18th, 2017, 9:55 am
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Post subject: Re: Ships of the Russian Black Sea FleetPosted: February 18th, 2017, 6:01 pm
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With this battleship Potemkin I feel myself inside Einsenstein`s film :D ! Excellent drawn vessel, as usual in GD`s works!


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