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Post subject: Re: Thiaria: RebootPosted: June 14th, 2015, 1:11 am
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Post subject: Re: Thiaria: RebootPosted: July 7th, 2015, 9:02 pm
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Thiarian battleships

1. The Survivors

1.1. Crionna
LT Crionna, named after 'the old man' (Gaelic: An Crionna), a legendary leader of Thiarian resistance against Britain between 1809 and 1813, whose skillful conduct of a relentless guerilla campaign drove one British governor to resignation and the next one, General Erskine, literally to madness and suicide, was severely damaged by 17 343mm hits from HMS Iron Duke, Benbow and Marlborough during the battle of Caitriona on March 4th, 1918. Trailing the Thiarian line, she absorbed the brunt of punishment dealt out by the British during the Thiarian fleet's retreat. She retaliated with ten hits on HMS Marlborough, which had little effect, but she nevertheless got lucky, because her engines held together and she ran at 23,5 knots - a knot and a half above her design speed - for nearly a full day, making it to safety. Her machinery finally failed after entering the Bauaine, and she was moored off Noyalo with her superstructure pretty much annihilated and a dozen holes in her hull, awaiting repairs. Reconstruction started in June and was still underway when the first world war ended. Unlike the three fully operational capital ships LT Aigean, LT Macanta and LT Lormaic, the Crionna was not mentioned among the ships to be delivered to the Allies as reparations, and she was eventually left to the Thiarians in the peace treaty of Norfolk. During the postwar economic slack - Thiaria's economy all but collapsed in 1920 and took till 1924 to recover - there was hardly any money available, and Crionna's reconstruction lasted till early 1923. By the time she re-entered service, she was restored to her 1918 appearance with very little modernization except some improvements to fire control; even the badly strained engines were only patched up rather than replaced. Crionna served for six uneventful years before she had to be taken in hand again due to a string of engine malfunctions. This time, she received three sets of geared Llanhaudh-Curtis turbines and six brand-new Siomar high-pressure narrow-tube boilers, increasing her designed output from 36.000 to 63.000hp. To make optimum use of the added power, her stern was lengthened by 6,5 meters to give her finer lines. In effect, her design speed increased to 24 knots, the same speed all other Thiarian capital ships of that time had, giving them a very homogenous formation. Other modifications included the installation of eight single 100mm L/45 HA guns; removal of the same number of 140mm L/55 secondaries, reducing their number to eight; fitting of a very strong battery of sixteen semi-automatic 37mm AA guns; mounting a catapult on top of turret Q and lenghtening the boat cranes for airplane handling; and installation of a completely new fire control suite. Bulges were proposed, but ultimately rejected because stability and flotation reserves were sufficient and bulges would have reduced speed back to 22 knots. Although she differed only little from her previous guise, LT Crionna emerged from her modernization in 1931 as a much more capable ship, once more the most powerful one in the Thiarian fleet.

LT Crionna 1939
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Crionna remained in commission till 1940 without any further major refits; they did however receive eight quad 13.2mm AAMG mounts in 1936. Like most large Tiarian ships, Crionna made several journeys around the world during that time: She visited New York and Boston in 1932; Brest, Copenhagen, Kiel, Danzig, Leningrad and Stockholm in 1934; Buenos Aires and Montevideo in 1935 and again in 1939; and Koko and Japan in 1938. When Thiaria entered the war against Great Britain in December 1939, she and four Thiarian destroyers accompanied the German heavy cruiser Admiral Graf Spee, which had found shelter in Thiaria after the Battle of the River Plate, northward before turning back near St.Helena; the Graf Spee eventually made it home safely. After her return, LT Crionna teamed up with the newer, but smaller battleships LT Artacain and LT Tuama, the carrier LT Antartach and five cruisers and began to aggressively probe for British shipping in the South Atlantic and around the cape. After two weeks, some British shipping showed up in the shape of Force L, consisting of the aircraft carrier HMS Renown, the battlecruisers HMS Howe and HMS Rodney, four heavy and four light cruisers. In the battle of Portiasc on January 16th, 1940, the British battlecruisers and heavy cruisers charged the three much smaller Thiarian battleships and wreaked havoc upon them. LT Tuama was sunk and LT Artacain severely damaged, and the heavy cruisers LT Tranacorr and LT Craigmiadh were also lost. Crionna came away with little damage and dealt six hits to HMS Rodney and one to the heavy cruiser HMS Northumberland, before a Thiarian airstrike forced the British to retreat. After this defeat, the Thiarians tried to regain initiative, but more British forces arrived, including the aircraft carriers HMS Repulse and Golden Hind. On February 11th, LT Crionna and LT Antartach were probing towards Tristan da Cunha when they were intercepted by three British carriers. The FAA machines overwhelmed Antartach's air group and scored two torpedo hits on the carrier and no less than five on Crionna. All five were on the port side, and she capsized within 15 minutes, taking over 1.100 crewmembers with her. It was the largest number of casualties on a Thiarian battleship throughout the war.

Next: LT Conaire

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Post subject: Re: Thiaria: RebootPosted: July 7th, 2015, 9:07 pm
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Looks great as usual. Keep it up.

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Post subject: Re: Thiaria: RebootPosted: July 8th, 2015, 3:14 am
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A good looking ship GD.

Nice to see you did not go overboard on how much would change on the ship during its refitting. (A problem I have occasionally :oops: )


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Post subject: Re: Thiaria: RebootPosted: July 11th, 2015, 8:29 am
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Very nice work. A nice addition.

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Post subject: Re: Thiaria: RebootPosted: July 13th, 2015, 7:58 pm
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1.2. Conaire

Named for a hero of the independence wars, a former US Navy officer who emigrated to Thiaria in 1798 in order to keep fighting the English, LT Conaire was in a bad way when the first world war ended. Fourteen 343 and 305mm shells had hit her during the battle of Craigmiadh, where she and her sister ship LT Lormaic sunk HMS Emperor of India, and she was laid up awaiting reconstruction. The battlecruiser Aigean and the battleships Macanta and Lormaic, which were not as badly damaged, and the battleship Crionna, which was about to sink, all had priority on the repair schedule, and Conaire was still unrepaired when the war ended. After the war, the Thiarians were quite broke, and repairs to their two remaining dreadnoughts were performed rather leisurely. Conaire, which required less work, was recommissioned in 1922. Like the Crionna, the Thiarians restored her to her late-war appearance with very little in the way of improvements. When the Brazilians seized New Portugal late in 1923, Conaire was the sole operational Thiarian battleship. Some right-wing Thiarian politicians seriously suggested sending her against Brazilians super-superdreadnoughts Riachuelo and Aquidaban to defend Gaelic honour, but luckily for her, reason prevailed. During the late 1920s, Conaire received a modest modernization. The main and secondary batteries were fitted with director control. The locally controlled 65mm flaks were replaced with eight single 100mm flaks, also with director control. Eight 13,2mm machineguns complemented the AA outfit. The mainmast, which carried some of the new fire control gear, was stepped as a tripod, and the forward superstructure gained a new flag bridge for her function as fleet flagship. As her engines were in much better shape than Crionna's, they were retained, some of the coal-fired boilers were replaced with oil-burners for better endurance.

LT Conaire 1930
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Like Crionna, Conaire traveled a lot during the late twenties and early thirties to show Thiaria's flag. She travelled along the west coast of the Americas in 1927, visiting Valparaiso, Lima, Managua, Acapulco and San Francisco; in 1930, she crossed the pacific for visits in Japan, Koko and China; in 1932, she visited Lissabon, Cadiz, Toulon, Naples, Piraeus and Istanbul. By that time, she was relegated to training duties, as her direct-drive machinery, dating back to 1912, had become prone to malfunctions. As Thiaria had been re-admitted to the club of sea-powers by joining the LNT, Conaire could safely be discarded and replaced with something all new, but her hull still had some life in her, and in 1935, when the Thiarian government already expected that all treaty limits would soon disappear, a thorough reconstruction was approved, which went every bit as far as the Italian effort with the Andrea Doria class. The Conaire-class had been designed from the very beginning with the option to replace their 305mm triple turrets with 370mm twins as soon as these were available. Guns of this caliber were designed in 1913, and production started in 1916. Six completed barrels were scrapped in 1919 under the conditions of the Norfolk peace treaty, but the construction plans of these very advanced 45-caliber weapons were still available. Eight were ordered in 1935, and their design served as the basis for a follow-on 50-caliber version to arm the upcoming 1937 battleships. Conaire was decommissioned late in 1936, docked and completely disemboweled. Her machinery was replaced with geared turbines and six oil-fired narrow-tube high-pressure oil-burning boilers with a total power of 72.000 hp. On top of them a new armoured deck of 140mm was placed, and her 305mm triples were indeed replaced with 45-caliber 370mm twins, firing a 750kg shell over a distance of 36.000 meters at 35 degrees elevation. Four of her twelve 140mm secondaries were removed, but her heavy flak battery was upgraded to twelve semi-automatic 60-caliber 100mm guns of the newest make, with an astounding RoF of 18 rounds per minute. In addition, no less than eight individually director-controlled 37mm L/70 quads were installed, immensely powerful weapons with a RoF of 150 rounds per minute and remarkable accuracy and range. Six quad 13.2mm MG mounts - changed to 20mm HS.404 twins during construction - completed the AA outfit. The entire superstructure was reworked; Conaire received a pyramid-shaped tower mast forward with a hangar for two floatplanes in its basemnt, a single funnel mounted relatively far aft and a catapult on top of turret Q. The tripod masts were replaced with two lighter pole masts. To bear the weight of this mass of additional equipment, the hull was copiously bulged, giving her a very portly shape. Due to the added beam, speed remained at 24 knots despite the massively increased engine power; lenghtening her hull was considered, but not implemented, because the Thiarian navy had three other battleships of 24 knots, and no higher speed was needed to form a homogenous squadron. Rebuilding LT Conaire took nearly twice as long as building her had taken; she did not return to service prior to October 1941, having been fitted with a partial radar suite, consisting of an air search radar in top of the mainmast, a direction finder device similar to HF/DF on top of the foremast, a surface search radar immediately below it, main artillery control radars on the main directors and an AA radar set on top of each 37mm director. The secondary artillery directors on top of the main artillery directors still lacked radar, and so did the directors for the heavy flak. Standard displacement now was 28.800 tons. Although she shared many design features with Thiaria's upcoming fast battleships, Conaire did not present a very balanced look due to the huge gap between bridge and funnel which was occupied by turret Q and the catapult on top of it; as modernized, she was widely regarded as the ugliest Thiarian battleship.

LT Conaire 1941
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Conaire teamed up with the sole other surviving slow battleship LT Artacain in November 1941 and took part in the battle of Punta del Diablo. Thiarian airplanes, cruisers and destroyers killed two Brazilian heavy cruisers; the battleships exchanged fire with the Brazilian battleship Niteroi, but to little effect. Conaire and Artacain then supported the Thiarian land offensive along the Uruguayan coast during December 1941 and early January 1942 with gunfire against ground targets. They again were in action off the Brazilian coast in April 1942 to support the invasion of Cricriuma, which was a total success, not least due to the contribution of the battleships. They were in continuous action for three months, engaging Brazilian ground forces all the way from Cricriuma via Porto Allegre to Florianopolis, which was invaded in late July. The Thiarian slow battleships then returned to Abernenui and Noyalo for some urgently needed R&R; during this refit, Crionna received radar guidance for her 100mm flak battery. Both battleships were back in action in mid-September, narrowly missing the battle of Meanchiorcal on September 9th, where Thiaria's largest aircraft carrier met her fate. After a brief fire-support mission in early October during the battle of Blumenau, Conaire and Artacain were recalled to New Portugal to serve as strategic reserve while some of the newest Thiarian fleet units were off on the gloriously futile Panama raid. This period of inactivity took the best part of five months, during which the battleships were repeatedly attacked by US and Brazilian Liberators in New Portugal, eventually forcing them to return to Abernenui. They then joined the invasion fleet carrying Thiaria's sole fully trained Marine division, heading for its doom in the battle of Faoigabhar in early April 1943. They fought a losing engagement against vastly superior allied forces, but could not prevent them from sinking virtually all Thiarian transports. Conaire engaged the battleship HMS Drake and was hit by four 406mm shells, dealing seven hits to the British herself. Then the flagship HMS Queen Mary came in range and battered the Artacain so badly she had to retreat under Conaire's covering fire; this enabled HMS Drake to fire at Conaire with impunity and deal another four hits. When the small battleship HMS Africa came into sight, the fate of both Thiarian slow battleships seemed sealed. But then the Thiarian main force of four fast battleships and three fleet carriers, which had previously been decoyed away, re-appeared on the scene, too late to save the convoy, but just in time to save Conaire and Artacain. Conaire returned to Cathair Riordan for repairs, which took three months. Her radar suite was completed and modernized, and her light flak was doubled to 24 20mm barrels. When Conaire returned to service in late July 1943, she was assigned to convoy escort duty to supply Thiaria's ground forces during Patton's successful ground offensive against them. In September 1943, she struck an air-dropped mine just outside Montevideo, which was provisionally patched up; when the Americans tried to outflank the Thiarians in early October by a paradrop north-west of Montevideo, she steamed up the River plate and provided vital ground support gunfire enabling Thiaria's last mechanized reserves to crush the US paratroopers before they could be reinforced. She then escorted an empty convoy back to Cathair Riordan and was repaired till mid-December. On Christmas Day, she departed with another convoy and reached Montevideo unmolested. She then remained there for three weeks, expecting to be sent against an US invasion force headed for Porto Allegre. But this fleet could be turned away by concentrated air strikes. Conaire returned to convoy escort duty and visited New Portugl three more times under ever increasing air threat, once being hit by a bomb into the bridge, which was fortunatly a dud. When the Battle of Anfa Caolas was fought in April 1944, Conaire was R&Ring in Nuatearman. As the position of Thiaria's ground forces in Uruguay grew more and more desperate after Thiaria's forces on New Portugal were neutralized by the invasion in May, Conaire once more served as a convoy escort flagship on the Montevideo route. Twice she could repulse smaller surface raids, but on May 12th, her convoy was attacked by the planes of six allied carriers in the battle of Muirgiaid; no less than three Thiarian escort carriers and half the transports were sunk, and Conaire was torpedoed amidships. Her bulge saved her and she returned to Cathair Riordan, but even the most notorious optimists in Thiaria now had to realize that the war was lost. Conaire was repaired within three weeks, but did not leave the Bauaine again before the outbreak of civil war in August. Her crew was among the first to switch sides to the rebels, and her CO managed to persuade the commanders of several other warships to follow his example. On August 31st, the Conaire, a light cruiser, three destroyers, a minelayer and three sloops sneaked out of Cathair Riordan and sailed for An Trionaid, with the expressed purpose of defending the local Cardinal-Archbishop - who had just excommunicated Thiaria's prime minister - from retaliation by government forces. The crews of Conaire and the other ships helped rebel forces securing that city. During the next six weeks, Thiaria was at war against itself. With most of the fleet remaining loyal to the nationalist government, Conaire was kept ready to defend An Trionaid against a naval assault, but the repeated orders of Prime Minister Murchada to that effect eventually crushed the navy's loyalty to a government asking it to kill thousands of Thiarian citizens. On October 11th, most of the rest of the fleet joined the Conaire, and the civil war was pretty much decided. The new government asked the allies for an armistice, which was eventually granted on November 30th. The next picture shows LT Conaire as she looked when Thiaria dropped out of the war.

LT Conaire 1944
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Under the conditions of the armistice, some Thiarian warships were recruited into allied service; LT Conaire was too old to be of much use and remained at home. She was retained by Thiaria's post war navy as a training ship (just as the Italians were allowed to keep Andrea Doria and Caio Duilio) and served in this capacity till 1959. She was then turned into a memorial, but her hull rapidly deteriorated and started to leak. Plans to repair her were abandoned by the new leftist government after the 1966 elections, and she was scrapped in 1968.

Next: The 20.000 tonners allowed by the peace of Norfolk

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Post subject: Re: Thiaria: RebootPosted: July 13th, 2015, 8:12 pm
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I like it GD, the camouflage schemes are just great.

I do have a question about the single funnel. Do you still have a forward boiler room? If you do, how do you pass the exhaust gasses to the funnel with the Q turret in the road.


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Post subject: Re: Thiaria: RebootPosted: July 14th, 2015, 9:04 am
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great work, as allways :-)

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Post subject: Re: Thiaria: RebootPosted: July 14th, 2015, 10:49 am
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Krakatoa wrote:
I do have a question about the single funnel. Do you still have a forward boiler room? If you do, how do you pass the exhaust gasses to the funnel with the Q turret in the road.
I do suppose thre is no forward boiler room on that ship. In a similar way the two Fuso deleted the forward boiler rooms entierely, and at the same time almost doubled the engine output from 40.000 to 75.000shp.

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Post subject: Re: Thiaria: RebootPosted: July 14th, 2015, 11:18 am
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Fantastic additions! :)


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