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i will maybe eventually get to those topdowns

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good stuff starts on page 10
work list:

• USS Kearsarge crane ship No. 1(on hold) need pics
  top down weapon and plane sheets

disregard this
springsharp report for PSS Lacrosse

PSS La Crosse, Peoples states of america, Heavy AA Crusier, laid down 1950

Displacement:
13,804 t light; 14,298 t standard; 14,549 t normal; 14,751 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(478.97 ft / 462.93 ft) x 80.00 ft x (25.00 / 25.27 ft)
(145.99 m / 141.10 m) x 24.38 m x (7.62 / 7.70 m)

Armament:
12 - 5.00" / 127 mm 45.0 cal guns - 63.03lbs / 28.59kg shells, 200 per gun
Dual purpose guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1950 Model
4 x Triple mounts on centreline ends, evenly spread
24 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm 40.0 cal guns - 1.87lbs / 0.85kg shells, 4,000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1950 Model
6 x Quad mounts on sides, aft evenly spread
4 - 1.57" / 40.0 mm 45.0 cal guns - 1.97lbs / 0.89kg shells, 4,000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1950 Model
2 x Twin mounts on sides, forward deck aft
8 - 0.79" / 20.0 mm 23.0 cal guns - 0.22lbs / 0.10kg shells, 1,500 per gun
Machine guns in deck mounts, 1950 Model
4 x Twin mounts on sides, forward deck forward
Weight of broadside 811 lbs / 368 kg

Armour:
- Belts: Width (max) Length (avg) Height (avg)
Main: 7.00" / 178 mm 309.08 ft / 94.21 m 10.73 ft / 3.27 m
Ends: 6.00" / 152 mm 162.01 ft / 49.38 m 10.73 ft / 3.27 m
Upper: 7.00" / 178 mm 300.90 ft / 91.71 m 8.00 ft / 2.44 m
Main Belt covers 103 % of normal length

- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 2.00" / 51 mm 3.00" / 76 mm 6.00" / 152 mm
4th: 0.50" / 13 mm - -

- Box over machinery & magazines: 3.00" / 76 mm
Forecastle: 3.00" / 76 mm Quarter deck: 1.00" / 25 mm

Machinery:
No fuel, Internal combustion motors,
Direct drive, 3 shafts, 102,928 shp / 76,785 Kw = 29.95 kts
Range 1,000nm at 17.00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 453 tons

Complement:
662 - 861

Cost:
£4.384 million / $17.537 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 200 tons, 1.4 %
Armour: 2,709 tons, 18.6 %
- Belts: 2,148 tons, 14.8 %
- Armament: 290 tons, 2.0 %
- Armour Deck: 270 tons, 1.9 %
Machinery: 0 tons, 0.0 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 10,835 tons, 74.5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 746 tons, 5.1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 60 tons, 0.4 %
- On freeboard deck: 60 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
189,168 lbs / 85,805 Kg = 3,026.7 x 5.0 " / 127 mm shells or 40.8 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1.37
Metacentric height 6.2 ft / 1.9 m
Roll period: 13.5 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 26 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0.04
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 0.26

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has a flush deck,
a straight bulbous bow and a round stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0.550 / 0.552
Length to Beam Ratio: 5.79 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 21.52 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 68 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 50
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 25.00 degrees
Stern overhang: 5.00 ft / 1.52 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):

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I love alternate WWII history
i will edit or upgrade most posts, all previous images are on my devinart page
http://daa14.deviantart.com/ I am a concept artist I/E guns hull
good stuff starts on page 10
work list:

• USS Kearsarge crane ship No. 1(on hold) need pics
  top down weapon and plane sheets

I never use springsharp, but I suppose you can see there are things going very wrong......
for example, you have an trim of 25 degrees, 26% of average seaboat quality, and you cannot move, because you have no machinery.

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That might be a problem

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That which does not kill me has made a grave tactical error

Worklist

Source Materiel is always welcome.

PSS Geronimo

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I love alternate WWII history
i will edit or upgrade most posts, all previous images are on my devinart page
http://daa14.deviantart.com/ I am a concept artist I/E guns hull
good stuff starts on page 10
work list:

• USS Kearsarge crane ship No. 1(on hold) need pics
  top down weapon and plane sheets

Hi cvbbdd,

While I think that's looking better, I'm not really able to comment on hull issues (just not got the knowledge or the experience) - however, I would point out that aft, you've got 6 quad bofors and a single 18 inch gun, due to the angles you've left yourself with your 5 inch triples - you might find that your rear aspect is quite vulnerable as a result - while I'm sure the 18 inch will hurt anything it hits, the rate of fire isn't going to be enough to put off a determined attack from outside 40mm range.

Regards,
Adam Smith

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I love alternate WWII history
i will edit or upgrade most posts, all previous images are on my devinart page
http://daa14.deviantart.com/ I am a concept artist I/E guns hull
good stuff starts on page 10
work list:

• USS Kearsarge crane ship No. 1(on hold) need pics
  top down weapon and plane sheets

Hi cvbbdd,

I guess I should have done this a while ago, but I'll ask now ... what is your goal in posting here?

Don't get me wrong, I've put up a pretty daft design myself, but my goal was to get the design improved (and it has improved as a result of the feedback I've been given).

Is that what you're after here? Or is this more a showcase of your existing designs, take it or leave it? I ask because I'm trying to offer what advice I can that will make the ships that you're drawing more realistic, but, as Jabba's pointed out, I'm not sure that's what you're interested in.

Regards,
Adam

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i am a concept artist, placement of the guns is what i mostly worry about

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I love alternate WWII history
i will edit or upgrade most posts, all previous images are on my devinart page
http://daa14.deviantart.com/ I am a concept artist I/E guns hull
good stuff starts on page 10
work list:

• USS Kearsarge crane ship No. 1(on hold) need pics
  top down weapon and plane sheets