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Karle94
Post subject: Re: American FrigatePosted: January 30th, 2014, 11:22 pm
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Here`s a smaller frigate. Same size as a Perry, now with a fully integrated mast, no electronics elsewhere except for a few comm antennae.

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Post subject: Re: American FrigatePosted: January 30th, 2014, 11:44 pm
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I can't help but think that mast is going to be very cramped.

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Post subject: Re: American FrigatePosted: January 31st, 2014, 6:05 am
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What was the idea behind the blue paint on the hull below the waterline? Other than that the drawings look cool.

NSTM Chapter 631 Preservation of Ships In Service is the instruction governing painting and preservating U.S. Navy warships.

I'm going to do one of these in 3D based on the SB scale drawings.


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Post subject: Re: American FrigatePosted: January 31st, 2014, 7:39 am
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I expect that the hull is gonna be somewhat cramped too. Perry's are VERY compact ships, and you put an smaller structure and an larger propulsion plant on board. the VLS is most likely limited to something like 16 cells, and the growth potential is gonna be very much limited
this ship might be the perfect example of making it bigger might make it cheaper in overall.

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Post subject: Re: American FrigatePosted: January 31st, 2014, 11:31 am
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Lebroba wrote:
What was the idea behind the blue paint on the hull below the waterline? Other than that the drawings look cool.

NSTM Chapter 631 Preservation of Ships In Service is the instruction governing painting and preservating U.S. Navy warships.

I'm going to do one of these in 3D based on the SB scale drawings.
It's anti fouling paint.
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Post subject: Re: American FrigatePosted: January 31st, 2014, 2:04 pm
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acelanceloet wrote:
I expect that the hull is gonna be somewhat cramped too. Perry's are VERY compact ships, and you put an smaller structure and an larger propulsion plant on board. the VLS is most likely limited to something like 16 cells, and the growth potential is gonna be very much limited
this ship might be the perfect example of making it bigger might make it cheaper in overall.
Maybe I should have been more specific, it is the same lenght as a long-hull Perry, that is 138 meters long. In turn, the width has been increased by 4 meters. This frigate is 18 meters wide. Although, maybe I should make the bridge structure and the I-mast bigger. Should I keep the Harpoon canisters? Or should I replace it with the replacement for the Harpoon? I can`t remember what it was called.


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Post subject: Re: American FrigatePosted: January 31st, 2014, 4:06 pm
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that should work..... the perry's are relatively narrow ships. keep an eye on the added resistance of this though, and that the ship is not too stable (if the beam is more, the CoG should be higher too)

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Post subject: Re: American FrigatePosted: January 31st, 2014, 4:12 pm
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A relatively low silhuett should reduce the top heavyness. The stabilizers aft of the bilgekeel should also add stability. I think I need a wider and longer I-mast, so I can put more in the width and length, instead of height. The ship has a 32 cell VLS, but maybe that is too much.


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Post subject: Re: American FrigatePosted: January 31st, 2014, 4:16 pm
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no, you misread. the stability is too high if you keep the same weight distribution on an wider hull. the ship will because of that be very mean in her movements and thus be horrible to sail on. the center of gravity should be higher then that of the perry to fix this.

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Post subject: Re: American FrigatePosted: January 31st, 2014, 4:33 pm
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Oh, I thought you meant that the cog was too high, my bad. The distribution of weight is not the same. The ship has the same length as the Perry, but is not actually a modernized Perry hull.


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