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Germany - CVL Flugzeugkreuzer 15000t
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Author:  maomatic [ November 22nd, 2015, 12:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Germany - CVL Flugzeugkreuzer 15000t
Hi,

a fun project of an oddity, that I recently found on the web:
http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/aJax2 ... b.jpg.html

A Diesel engined 15000t "Flugzeugkreuzer" (= "airplaine cruiser") that was supposedly designed for commerce raiding.
It resembles the "Flugdeckkreuzer E V"-design, but has different dimensions. (CWL 172m)

I have no further info on this design except for some dimensions and it's armament.
Neither do I know, if this was an official design planned by the Kriegsmarine, or something sombody just made up.
Hence I am posting this as a "personal design".

If anyone has some further information about the ship, I would really appreciate it!

[ img ]

Displacement:
15000t full load

Armament:
- 8 (4x2) 15cm SK C28 / L55 in MPL C/36 in casemates
- 8 (4x2) 10.5cm SK C33 / L65 in Dopp. L. C/37
- 16 (8x2) 3.7cm SK C30 / L83 in Dopp. L. C/30
- various 2cm MG C38 (source 16x [4x4] - drawing 24x [4x4 + 8x1])

Aircraft:
- 12 Bf 109T-2
- 10 Ju 87D

P.S.:
I wouldn't want to have manned one of the AA-guns on top of the flight deck... :shock:

Cheers!
maomatic
Author:  DG_Alpha [ November 22nd, 2015, 4:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Germany - CVL Flugzeugkreuzer 15000t
Nice work.

I have the drawing you linked in several forms in my personal archives, but I don't have a direct source. The design also pops up in several tables listing German (hybrid-) carrier designs. According to the description, it was designed for 'mass production' and not commerce raiding (at least not directly in the designation). The designated commerce raider was the the next bigger version, an 18,000t-design.

Anyways, the ship looks great, couldn't have done it better myself.
Author:  adenandy [ November 22nd, 2015, 7:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Germany - CVL Flugzeugkreuzer 15000t
It's really wierd seeing a Carriers' superstructure on the port side of the vessel. Very different :!:

REALLY nice drawing Maomatic. Well done matey :D
Author:  Rhade [ November 22nd, 2015, 7:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Germany - CVL Flugzeugkreuzer 15000t
I really like that concept... but looking at "source material" I don't see that guns in casamates are double... I don't even remember if anyone design a double casamate mount.
Author:  Krakatoa [ November 22nd, 2015, 7:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Germany - CVL Flugzeugkreuzer 15000t
Rhade - the Graf Zeppelin was designed with double 5.9" casemates.
Author:  Rhade [ November 22nd, 2015, 8:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Germany - CVL Flugzeugkreuzer 15000t
Well that's prove that my memory is not always in best shape. ;)

EDIT: a little offtop, this is how Graf looks now.
[ img ]
Author:  Rusel [ November 22nd, 2015, 10:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Germany - CVL Flugzeugkreuzer 15000t
This looks like the 1931 Weser from HSF Sortie 1918
heres the page link
http://www.alternatehistory.com/newtest ... 11/page-83
and the data link
http://hsfsortie1918.webs.com/Pages/Shi ... 201931.txt
Rus
Author:  eswube [ November 24th, 2015, 9:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Germany - CVL Flugzeugkreuzer 15000t
Very interesting.
Author:  emperor_andreas [ November 25th, 2015, 12:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Germany - CVL Flugzeugkreuzer 15000t
Rusel wrote:
This looks like the 1931 Weser from HSF Sortie 1918
heres the page link
http://www.alternatehistory.com/newtest ... 11/page-83
and the data link
http://hsfsortie1918.webs.com/Pages/Shi ... 201931.txt
Rus
One of the best timelines on that site!
Author:  Skyder2598 [ November 27th, 2015, 8:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Germany - CVL Flugzeugkreuzer 15000t
Great work ;-)
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