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Post subject: UK Mars & Jupiter Classes (1930-32) Destroyer LeadersPosted: April 7th, 2015, 9:43 pm
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The Japanese were building the Fubuki's with 6x5", France was building the large Contre-torpileurs with 5x5.5", Italy was following France with large destroyers even the US had to follow the Japanese with larger destroyers. What this meant is that the standard A-I type destroyer with its 4x4.7" were being badly outclassed. The idea of the A-I Leaders with 5x4.7 went some way to giving the smaller DD's a ship of force to back them up, but even they paled in comparison to other navies construction. The solution was to build a larger leader with guns that would match or better their oppositions. The latest 'G' class patrol cruisers had a new mark of 5.5" and these guns were to be fitted to a larger destroyer hull in single mountings and the twin light turret.


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Working in the open with the single 5.5" had shown the difficulties of hand loading the larger weapons. A redesign of the aft section allowed for the three singles to be replaced with two twin turrets as fitted to the A position. The extra weight and beam required to fit three turrets on the design was more than made up for by the effectiveness of the loading system.

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Post subject: Re: UK Mars & Jupiter Classes (1930-32) Destroyer LeadersPosted: April 8th, 2015, 7:37 am
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Another interesting idea.
Looks good, but I think you might want a tad more freeboard on the forecastle to keep the bows dry (the 5.5in twin is likely to be somewhat heavier than 2x1 4.7in so the bows might dig in more).

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Post subject: Re: UK Mars & Jupiter Classes (1930-32) Destroyer LeadersPosted: April 8th, 2015, 12:17 pm
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Raised the hull freeboard by 2 feet, and increased the sheer forward. That should also help with deck penetration for the turrets, which I did wonder about. I had made sure the aft turret was mounted far enough forward from where the shafts were not to interfere.


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Post subject: Re: UK Mars & Jupiter Classes (1930-32) Destroyer LeadersPosted: April 9th, 2015, 7:39 am
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That looks much better, getting towards a Tribal in style.

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Post subject: Re: UK Mars & Jupiter Classes (1930-32) Destroyer LeadersPosted: April 20th, 2015, 1:57 am
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Added drawings of refitted Mars/Jupiter class DDL's with 4.5" and 5" rebuilds

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Post subject: Re: UK Mars & Jupiter Classes (1930-32) Destroyer LeadersPosted: April 20th, 2015, 7:45 am
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Interesting, the weights should work in your favour, allows a better fire-control system too.

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