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heuhen
Post subject: Re: The Norwegian CruiserPosted: October 29th, 2013, 7:05 pm
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ah thanks for that information.

I assume the 2D radar is okay.



BTW. do anyone have an idea of what I can do to her as future upgrades. She could for example be equipped with Terne III since that system is very light. missiles what type... etc.

change in the secondary. I see for my self of the removal of the entire 40 mm battery and only have 57 mm in one of the future upgrades.

what year would you think an upgrade happen for an ship like this. at the moment I have her build in 1948 as one of the last of it's type ...or


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Post subject: Re: The Norwegian CruiserPosted: October 29th, 2013, 7:18 pm
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For her (assumed) role, a 2-D long-range air/surface radar such as you've got will do mighty fine!

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Post subject: Re: The Norwegian CruiserPosted: October 29th, 2013, 8:06 pm
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Regarding the upgrades, I'm not sure if Terne (or any such ASW weapon) is the most obvious choice. I mean, You don't see cruisers chasing submarines too often. ;)
I guess that such vessel would be a good platform for long-range SAM (see De Zeven Provincien or Sverdlov), helicopter hangar (De Zeven... or Tiger) or Command & Control installations (Sverdlov) - with first two options being optically most interesting.
Timeline for such upgrades? Early-to-mid 1960s, I suppose.


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Post subject: Re: The Norwegian CruiserPosted: October 29th, 2013, 9:57 pm
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heuhen wrote:
Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion motors,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 62 839 shp / 46 878 Kw = 29,00 kts
Range 0nm at 0,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 0 tons
Actually, this is the reason the hull strength is so very high...

It's a splendid-looking ship, though. I've been toying with the idea of something akin for Wesworld Chile. Might I re-flag her with the Lone Star for consideration?


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Post subject: Re: The Norwegian CruiserPosted: October 29th, 2013, 10:56 pm
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BrockPaine wrote:
heuhen wrote:
Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion motors,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 62 839 shp / 46 878 Kw = 29,00 kts
Range 0nm at 0,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 0 tons
Actually, this is the reason the hull strength is so very high...

It's a splendid-looking ship, though. I've been toying with the idea of something akin for Wesworld Chile. Might I re-flag her with the Lone Star for consideration?

it was noted and fixed a bit earlier. havent updated the text-report.

you can flag it so much you want. but No white flag on her. :D


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Post subject: Re: The Norwegian CruiserPosted: November 1st, 2013, 1:35 pm
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Your cruiser looks smashing now! I'd be toying with the idea of a fully enclosed bridge though. That'd be fun to try out.

However, I must give you the compliment of how extraordinary thorough you are in your attention to detail! It's simply the highest possible standard. I especially like how you toned the blue shade in the motor personnel boats' windows. That looks awesome. Thanks for teaching me a few stuff!

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Post subject: Re: The Norwegian CruiserPosted: November 1st, 2013, 3:13 pm
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bezobrazov wrote:
Your cruiser looks smashing now! I'd be toying with the idea of a fully enclosed bridge though. That'd be fun to try out.

However, I must give you the compliment of how extraordinary thorough you are in your attention to detail! It's simply the highest possible standard. I especially like how you toned the blue shade in the motor personnel boats' windows. That looks awesome. Thanks for teaching me a few stuff!

you'r sooo welcome! :D


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Post subject: Re: The Norwegian CruiserPosted: November 1st, 2013, 6:02 pm
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Just wanted to write a stupid text. sooo...

The Norwegian HNoMS den Norske löve (The Norwegian lion) laid down in 1948. was a cruiser build to become an AAW escort and lead ship in a flotilla of destroyers.

With Modified Swedish guns, mainly modified to withstand the extreme North sea weather. in the 50's she received an upgrade to her main armament, the upgrade was to give her better surface to land artillery ability.

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In 1963 she was docked in an US Naval shipyard where the entire aft section of the ship was redesigned and re-build to fit Mk-10 GMLS Mod-7 with 60 missiles at the same time she got an massive upgrade on the electronic side. all 40mm was removed and replaced by 20mm. here 57mm received an upgrade to it's fire control systems and new shells was assigned the gun. here engines was also rebuild and she recived an new an larger command deck. she was launched again in 1964 and raised her command flag half year later.

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in 1973 she received her final upgrade. among the upgrade was:
- 12 x Penguin launchers.
- sea sparrow
- 2 x "egg" fire control for improve the firing from 57mm. but could also be used toward the main guns.

her main guns received restrictions because the guns was starting to get very old.

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She was taken out of service in the 80's after having large engine problems over some time. She have seen combat in Korea when she was assigned for artillery support. She saw combat in Vietnam, as an escort vessel for convoys. but an engine failure during close driving exercise at high speed with US destroyers, ended in damage to an US Destroyer was the nail in the coffin for here. She is Now laying at the Norwegian Naval Museum in Horton and awaiting fund for restoration.


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Post subject: Re: The Norwegian CruiserPosted: November 1st, 2013, 6:05 pm
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Ok, on those latter ones, you absolutely need to give me a shot at drawing the enclosed bridge structures, that I think will befit a ship of this kind, that is, unless you wanna have a go at it!

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Post subject: Re: The Norwegian CruiserPosted: November 1st, 2013, 6:15 pm
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bezobrazov wrote:
Ok, on those latter ones, you absolutely need to give me a shot at drawing the enclosed bridge structures, that I think will befit a ship of this kind, that is, unless you wanna have a go at it!
you can do it! if not I can do it later.

BTW. ther is two ship in this class.

HNoMS Den Norske Löve (that a have drawn)
HNoMS Eidsvold (is a bit different, build different after what they learned from the first one)


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