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Tre kronor had/have the ability to lay mines, I just decide to give this one an small mine deck aft. the deck is small and have only mines for more an tactical use, and not for blockading, at that time Norway had many small and one large minelayer in form of HNoMS Olav Tryggvason (Commissioned: 21 June 1934)

so the task of blockade is going for the purpose build minelayer, while "Den Norske Love class" have it for tactical purpose and nothing else. that means she doesn't carry 280 mines like HNoMS Olav Tryggvason, but perhaps around 40-50 mines, or just enough mines for a tactical use.

Tactical minelaying died during WW1 because the ships needed were too compromised to be workable on a cruiser sized displacement.
In order to make it work you need to be able to outrun your enemy, both in order to get into attack possition and to get back out again, which means at least cruiser sized engines and boilers. Because of the short practical range of a tactical mine barrier you also need to be able to fight your way through the enemy's screening forces which means cruiser sized weaponry and protection, over the mines as well.
And that brings us to the question, how many mines do you carry? Since nobody actually made a ship like this* it's hard to tell, but you're looking at well over 100 in order to have a real chance of hitting anyone. I can't say what the exact result of hanging 100+ 300-500kg mines and associated gear plus armour and the reinforcements needed to support bo open transom of the back of a ship, but I doubt it's going to be pretty.

*The British and american minelaying cruisers were high speed minelayers, they weren't designed for any sort of fleet action.

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I startet to redo redo the cruiser so I can get some relax from part-sheet-drawing. what I did:

-is put it launch date for a couple years later than the original.
-Pretend that Norway both drawings from France and modified it to Norwegian needs.

any suggestion of things that I can do with here.

I would just like to point out that you're using the drawing of the 152mm/55 Modell 1930(i.e. not the Tre Kronor ones, which were /53 Modell 42).
Glad to see my parts came to use though.

yeah I have to fix that.

"Den Norske Löve class" (The Norwegian Lion class)

I am designing it for an AU I am working on.

Some of the design line on here would be:

- Designed as an AAW Escort and flagship for an ambitious naval plan.
- Design problems, where engineers had to do drop things just to make the design work. some areas it have to be limited for example.
- a design that saw the drop of the armor belt just to get the design to work. In the AU I will come with the reason around it

(Any ideas for future upgrades for the cruiser)



Den Norske Love, Norway AAW Cruiser Escort laid down 1948

Displacement:
11 715 t light; 12 348 t standard; 12 348 t normal; 12 348 t full load

Dimensions: Length (overall / waterline) x beam x draught (normal/deep)
(616,80 ft / 600,72 ft) x 53,81 ft x (21,33 / 21,33 ft)
(188,00 m / 183,10 m) x 16,40 m x (6,50 / 6,50 m)

Armament:
8 - 5,98" / 152 mm 53,0 cal guns - 114,86lbs / 52,10kg shells, 600 per gun
Dual purpose guns in turret on barbette mounts, 1948 Model
2 x Twin mounts on centreline, aft deck aft
2 x Twin mounts on centreline, forward deck forward
12 - 2,24" / 57,0 mm 60,0 cal guns - 6,19lbs / 2,81kg shells, 1 000 per gun
Dual purpose guns in deck and hoist mounts, 1948 Model
6 x Single mounts on sides, forward deck aft
8 - 1,57" / 40,0 mm 70,0 cal guns - 2,18lbs / 0,99kg shells, 4 000 per gun
Anti-air guns in deck mounts, 1948 Model
4 x Single mounts on sides, evenly spread
2 x Twin mounts on centreline, evenly spread
Weight of broadside 1 011 lbs / 458 kg
Main Torpedoes
3 - 21,0" / 533 mm, 24,00 ft / 7,32 m torpedoes - 1,651 t each, 4,954 t total
In 2 sets of deck mounted carriage/fixed tubes

Armour:
- Gun armour: Face (max) Other gunhouse (avg) Barbette/hoist (max)
Main: 1,00" / 25 mm - 2,00" / 51 mm
2nd: 0,50" / 13 mm - -

- Armoured deck - multiple decks:
For and Aft decks: 1,20" / 30 mm
Forecastle: 1,20" / 30 mm Quarter deck: 1,20" / 30 mm

Machinery:
Diesel Internal combustion motors,
Geared drive, 2 shafts, 62 839 shp / 46 878 Kw = 29,00 kts
Range 0nm at 0,00 kts
Bunker at max displacement = 0 tons

Complement:
585 - 761

Cost:
£5,513 million / $22,054 million

Distribution of weights at normal displacement:
Armament: 309 tons, 2,5 %
- Guns: 302 tons, 2,4 %
- Weapons: 6 tons, 0,1 %
Armour: 668 tons, 5,4 %
- Armament: 112 tons, 0,9 %
- Armour Deck: 555 tons, 4,5 %
Machinery: 1 536 tons, 12,4 %
Hull, fittings & equipment: 8 953 tons, 72,5 %
Fuel, ammunition & stores: 633 tons, 5,1 %
Miscellaneous weights: 250 tons, 2,0 %
- Hull below water: 50 tons
- Hull void weights: 50 tons
- Hull above water: 50 tons
- On freeboard deck: 50 tons
- Above deck: 50 tons

Overall survivability and seakeeping ability:
Survivability (Non-critical penetrating hits needed to sink ship):
26 364 lbs / 11 959 Kg = 246,0 x 6,0 " / 152 mm shells or 2,6 torpedoes
Stability (Unstable if below 1.00): 1,02
Metacentric height 2,0 ft / 0,6 m
Roll period: 15,8 seconds
Steadiness - As gun platform (Average = 50 %): 49 %
- Recoil effect (Restricted arc if above 1.00): 0,38
Seaboat quality (Average = 1.00): 1,22

Hull form characteristics:
Hull has low quarterdeck ,
a straight bulbous bow and small transom stern
Block coefficient (normal/deep): 0,627 / 0,627
Length to Beam Ratio: 11,16 : 1
'Natural speed' for length: 26,00 kts
Power going to wave formation at top speed: 53 %
Trim (Max stability = 0, Max steadiness = 100): 40
Bow angle (Positive = bow angles forward): 26,00 degrees
Stern overhang: 3,28 ft / 1,00 m
Freeboard (% = length of deck as a percentage of waterline length):
Fore end, Aft end
- Forecastle: 30,00 %, 26,25 ft / 8,00 m, 21,98 ft / 6,70 m
- Forward deck: 20,00 %, 21,98 ft / 6,70 m, 21,98 ft / 6,70 m
- Aft deck: 20,00 %, 21,98 ft / 6,70 m, 21,98 ft / 6,70 m
- Quarter deck: 30,00 %, 13,45 ft / 4,10 m, 14,76 ft / 4,50 m
- Average freeboard: 20,13 ft / 6,14 m
Ship tends to be wet forward

Ship space, strength and comments:
Space - Hull below water (magazines/engines, low = better): 53,5 %
- Above water (accommodation/working, high = better): 177,1 %
Waterplane Area: 24 864 Square feet or 2 310 Square metres
Displacement factor (Displacement / loading): 243 %
Structure weight / hull surface area: 217 lbs/sq ft or 1 060 Kg/sq metre
Hull strength (Relative):
- Cross-sectional: 2,34
- Longitudinal: 3,30
- Overall: 2,43
Excellent machinery, storage, compartmentation space
Excellent accommodation and workspace room
Good seaboat, rides out heavy weather easily

Wow! That's a nice cruiser.

Looking good!

Now, for the report, it's easier if you arrange the main artillery as "Centerline - Ends (Fore -> Aft)". If the number of turrets is even, it will automatically distribute them equally at the ends, instead of you manually placing half of the artillery fore and half aft. Also, since two mounts are superfiring, you should enter the number two in the "above deck" slot.

Very nice line.

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I like that cruiser very, very much!