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After have listing to comments, and tried to answer around them to see if it stick... I have done some small changes to the vessel.

Changes:

Base version:

- 76 mm replaced by 40 mm. Wondering if I'll change this position to a StanFlex system. Used not the latest 40 mm, to reflect that if an Navy want to use a 40 mm instead for 56 mm, they would most likely use whatever they have stored from other vessel.
- NSM is moved aft, in a ready for but not installed position, on the aft deck.
- MK-41 VLS is replaced by Mk-45/56 Mod 3 compact StanFlex.
- SMART-S replaced with the lighter radar and smaller radar in form of Thales MRR-3D NG
- Aft deck mad capable to handle container, there should be space for at least 4 small containers.

The "Mark 2" version, same as above but:

- Center Mk-14 VLS replaced by Mk-45/56 Mod 3 compact StanFlex. Propably placed off center.
- NSM is also made ready for but not installed. With space of other type of launcher if needed.
- RHIB is taking up some space on the aft deck, but are still big and open.

Other changes:

- small changes to the underwater hull, reflecting that this vessel is only available with water-jet.
- Minor changes to some lines it look a little smother and not like someone have stretched a small vessel.
- Removed some stuff in the bow area and added anchors that I had totally forgot.



Hm. could do some small adjustment to the mast, saving some weight in that area...

Looks more reasonable now. I like the looks of this design, looks clean but has some character to it.
I agree the mast could be made thinner now.

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Now with smaller mast, and a little change around on the armament. Now the 40mm Bofors stealth mount is also an solution as armament on here.

Wanted to test out some light/medium frigate idea I had... sooo.

The Colors are a bit odd

Displacement: around 3500-4000 tons
Length: 114.3 meters
Beam: ? (Other ships tend to stay around 12-14 meter area)
Depth: sonar: 7,0 meter
Powerplant: CODAG
Speed: 27 knots nominal (30 knots), Cruise at 16 knots.
Range: 4000nmi (5000nmi)
crew: max. 150, Nominal: 100
Armament:
- 1 X 57mm gun
- 2 X 20 mm gun
- 1 X 8-cell MK-41 VLS
- 2 X 8 cell Harpoon launcher
- 2 X triple TT
- Old school mines!
Extra:
- 76mm in replacement for 57mm
- Millenium gun or 40mm/60 aft.
- Naval strike missiles



Displacement: around 3200-3800 tons
Length: 113.2 meters
Beam: ? (Other ships tend to stay around 12-14 meter area)
Depth: sonar: 7,0 meter
Powerplant: CODAG
Speed: 27 knots nominal (30 knots), Cruise at 16 knots.
Range: 4000nmi (5000nmi)
crew: max. 120, Nominal: 80
Armament:
- 1 X 76mm gun
- Millenium gun
- 2 X 12,7mm gun
- 2 X 8-cell MK-41 VLS
- 2 X 8 cell NSM
- 2 X triple TT
- Old school mines!
Extra:
- 127mm or 57mm in replacement for 76mm

The WM20-series 'egg' has been out of production since 1990.

no problem replacing it with something else, suggestion.

my idea was to use some parts that Navy's "Might" have in store from other decommissioned ships, but at the same time use of the shelf parts. That in hindsight, how would you see these ships fitted/equipped.


I have lately got bitten by the idea of ships, that are build to high end requirement, but are armed with either "whatever" a Navy might have in store from before. But at the same time use the latest "of the shelf" equipment.


so for example the powerplant could be:
- turbine of older design, where all bugs over the years since it was developed, have been fixed. (basically, using last generation equipment then the latest equipment)
- Diesel engine doesn't need to be of the latest design number.
(Fuel cost will always be the downside)


Other parts:
- use older but upgraded radar that give close to today's radar performance or use "of the shelf" radar.
- older gun in new cloths with a updated computer system.
- etc.

It sound funny and weird, but when you look it from the perspective "Getting a Navy, without going bankrupt buying them". Fuel cost will always be a problem... but that is up to those wanting the ship, getting it a little bit cheaper, but more costly in operation or have an fuel efficient ship, but more expensive. And so many other things. save money in one area, use more money in a another area.

Stylistically I would say, the first design has a hideous funnel/ mack, looks too big and perhaps a giant IR target too?
The bridge and forward superstructure on the second design looks too low, although the knuckle will probably keep spray away from the sides I'd want a higher position in rough weather.

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Never-Were British Aircraft

the SMART-S can do everything the WM could do, and do it better and more reliable, and the Mk 2 version added to that even some of the STIR series abilities (missile and gun guidance) so if you have that on board, forget the WM egg.

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Updated version:

(don't mind the lack of the helicopter, forgot to put it inn)

Some EXCELLENT designs here Heuhen

Well done matey

Keep up the good work

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