my two cents, heuhen
The ship is around the size of the Swedish cruiser "Tre Kronor" Should be build around that time to. The idea is that Norway started it's rebuild program off the Norwegian Navy mush earlier than it did in 1938-39. (The Norwegian Naval Program was: 6-10 small submarines, 5-6 destroyers of Sleipner class (735 tons), 1 destroyer leader (1700 tons) and one Coastal defense ship (Artillery ships) (10-11" gun ship))
My idea is that since Norway had by then a complete Navy to defend them self against the German Navy by that time. The German Navy would take the chance of losing the entire Navy to Norway (we all know what happened when an Norwegian Coastal defense battery opened fire on "Blücher", what would happened with a rebuild Navy, that got the money they needed... yeah right.)
Think intelligence, very large & extense minefields, very large & dispersed coastal artillery, many MTB's but no more, with dozens of torpedo-bombers & escorts-fighters. Keeps Destroyers & Escort-destroyer only for national proud....
, the larger ships are only pure hypocrit folly
Norway see that Sweden build cruiser. Norway say "hey with long coast line to defend in this time, a cruiser isn't a bad idea)
Not copy, think only $ and Russian threat...
Yeah right my brain is messy... and stupid... but it would be fun to see how such a cruiser can look like.
No, I like your (warships) open-mind
BTW. I use Sleipner class as an idea about how the cruiser might look like since the Sleipner class was the last "tru" all Norwegian designed and build Naval vessel.
You
"almost understand everything", but you misses all
In the postwar (shipbuilding) period (1946-1958, for the Norwegian side), think only newer AAW escort-destroyers (6-8), (dozens) MTB, (few) minelayers, (one dozen) submarines, (many) minefiels & coastal-artillery !!!!
Another thing a come to remember is that Sleipner class had Norwegian made guns, what if Norway made them self guns.... on contract or something.
After war, think only US or Bofor weapons (maybe but dubious UK weapons) systems
Look like a 1942-1946 cruiser design, almost obsolete by early 1950's, forget it by late 1956 & give it to scrappers by 1958...
The Norwegian HNoMS den Norske löve (The Norwegian lion) laid down in 1948. was a cruiser build to become an AAW escort and lead ship in a flotilla of destroyers.
With Modified Swedish guns, mainly modified to withstand the extreme North sea weather. in the 50's she received an upgrade to her main armament, the upgrade was to give her better surface to land artillery ability.
- Laid down by 1948 => commissioned by 1952-1954
- a ASW depth-charge rack aft !
, LOL
. On a ship of this size (180+ meters, 7/9000 tons), the ASW rack was fully ineffective (the TOO BIG ship are not enough maneouvrable), remenber your the AA Atlanta cruiser with here ineffective aft ASW rack's....removes them quickly !!!
In 1963 she was docked in an US Naval shipyard where the entire aft section of the ship was redesigned and re-build to fit Mk-10 GMLS Mod-7 with 60 missiles at the same time she got an massive upgrade on the electronic side. all 40mm was removed and replaced by 20mm. here 57mm received an upgrade to it's fire control systems and new shells was assigned the gun. here engines was also rebuild and she recived an new an larger command deck. she was launched again in 1964 and raised her command flag half year later.
- anti-ships torpedo-tubes in 1964, with so many soviets ships with a full sensors/radars suit, LOL
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anti-ships torpedo-tubes dubious-usefull by mid 1950's and obsolete by late 1950's/early 1960's !!!
- your retractable very small hangar look EXTREMELY vulnerable/fragile for me in nordic-sea condition.
In the first "very heavy sea" or "storm", you fragile hangar even fly away (or blast away)
(toward the north pole
).
in 1973 she received her final upgrade. among the upgrade was:
- 12 x Penguin launchers.
- sea sparrow
- 2 x "egg" fire control for improve the firing from 57mm. but could also be used toward the main guns.
her main guns received restrictions because the guns was starting to get very old.
- LOL
, by 1973, anti-ships torpedo tubes or ASW rack on this LARGE ships are fully obsolete again the russian 1970's systems
She was taken out of service in the 80's after having large engine problems over some time.
a realistic scenario for a ageing (30+ years old) engine cruiser...
She have seen combat in Korea when she was assigned for artillery support. She saw combat in Vietnam, as an escort vessel for convoys. but an engine failure during close driving exercise at high speed with US destroyers, ended in damage to an US Destroyer was the nail in the coffin for here. She is Now laying at the Norwegian Naval Museum in Horton and awaiting fund for restoration.
EXTREMELY UNLIKELY to see the largest norwegian unit off the korean coast when, at the same time, the soviet threat was extremely heavy off the norwegian coast's during the 1950's !!!!!!!!!
Think:
- Your cruiser was laid-down by 1948
- First Russian A-Bomb test by 1949.
- Russian ability to "atomize" the 3 or 4 largest Norwegian targets by mid 1952.
- First Russian H-Bomb device test by mid 1953.
- By late 1953, the soviet navy can align in the Northern Fleet at least 2 or 3 cruisers (sverdlov class), more than a dozens of Skoriy class destroyers, some others destroyers, many submarines & aircrafts, some minefiels & nuclear-weapons......this situation even be more worse by late 1956...
- First Russian H-Bomb (operationnal) test by late 1955.
- Russian ability to atomize a NATO squadron (without carrier) by late 1956/1957 in the nordic seas.
- Russian ability to atomize a US carrier strike groupe in the barent-sea by 1961/1962...
In any case, your cruisers are obsolete by...1955/1958...
Too big, too expensive (for the small norvegian budget), too "crew" expensive (1 cruiser crew = 6 escort-destroyer crew ?) , too vulnerable to the soviet threat. Better to built more small, cheap & survivable ships.
For the norwegian (largest warships), postwar, think only AAW escort-destroyer
- 6 to 8 ships
- 1650/2350 tons
- 4 or 6 guns (1 forward/1 aft or 1 forward/2aft)
- full AA/DP guns (57mm bofor or 76mm US)
- ASW mortar or rockets, depth charges aft
"prefers the US logistics than the Swedish quality..." (more usefull in the event of World War III...)