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Tobius
Post subject: Re: Mister McKinley's Navy.Posted: February 17th, 2017, 4:46 am
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After mulling over some cogent feedback from Colloseum, I reworked some gunbucket art.


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Post subject: Re: Mister McKinley's Navy.Posted: February 17th, 2017, 5:03 pm
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Your shading is questionable and that "grain" is awful.

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Post subject: Re: Mister McKinley's Navy.Posted: February 17th, 2017, 5:20 pm
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I don't see the point in having the loading gate on the left side of the rifle, it just seems inconvenient even for the Krag-style magazine.

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Tobius
Post subject: Re: Mister McKinley's Navy.Posted: February 17th, 2017, 9:05 pm
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https://youtu.be/v4hv5_8b2Bw

Notice what he says about the lug? Mechanically a fail point.

https://youtu.be/UdL_PROUKlE

Notice what he says about loading?

Some of the US Krags (not many) failed at the locking lug (one (1) lug each). Part of that problem was traced to the way the bolt catches and lifts the loose bullets in the feed pan into battery.

https://youtu.be/ZPa4amzVIwQ

As you can see here with a couple of misfeeds in action.

"Your shading is questionable and that "grain" is awful."

Did you at least like the curtains, sir?


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Post subject: Re: Mister McKinley's Navy.Posted: February 17th, 2017, 11:16 pm
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Wood grain isn't something done in gunbucket scale.

Your shading implies that the moving parts of your rifle aren't smoothly machined, and I highly doubt some of those parts angle the way your shading shows.

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Post subject: Re: Mister McKinley's Navy.Posted: February 18th, 2017, 3:31 am
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Image is resized and very blurry. Kill the wood grain. What are the little purple gem-looking things on the sides of the weapons?

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Post subject: Re: Mister McKinley's Navy.Posted: February 18th, 2017, 7:49 pm
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RegiaMarina1939 wrote:
Image is resized and very blurry. Kill the wood grain. What are the little purple gem-looking things on the sides of the weapons?
Redo.

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Notes:

1. Gave up on the Krag style.
2. Wood grain and shiny metal look dulled for matte finish.
3. Checked function line. The barrel was off by two pixels which threw everything else off.
4. Changed hopper to magazine feed and added thumb lever for catch eject.
5. As long as I was about it went for a Mannlicher instead of Krag safety.
6. Springfield arsenal medallion moved to not interfere with the cheek weld and grip.


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Post subject: Re: Mister McKinley's Navy.Posted: February 18th, 2017, 8:40 pm
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Looks way better without the wood grain. The weapons look much prettier at the correct size. Overall, good job, but personally I would have opted for a Mauser stripper-clip rather than a Krag action, but since you are replicating what happened historically, it is understandable that you would go this route.

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Tobius
Post subject: Re: Mister McKinley's Navy.Posted: February 20th, 2017, 3:19 am
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First version I did not like.

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This version I think is aesthetically more pleasing.

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Tobius
Post subject: Re: Mister McKinley's Navy.Posted: February 22nd, 2017, 3:22 am
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CLASH OF ARMS:

The go-order comes 1 July 1898:
Quote:
wassareif... pausatura... badanada

centennial... titubadi... lauschbank

voseti...offendands... caraquiel

bicaraqzads... mumeratura... spoilable

appilante... depugnere... demidevit

monorilaba... atacharon... fashanadsem

elienatte... crencha... sparrwerk

alienatote...

Roosevelt
One doesn't know USNC Alpha-dog, but after Dewey's flag secretary loses the code-book; It takes the Captain of the USS Oneida, Commander Jesse M. Roper, an hour to crack the message with letter transposition schemes. "War with Spain" "Seek out Enemy" "Attack him immediately" "Eliminate Spanish forces" "Execute" Roper does not finally actually crack the message. He guesses. Roper tells Dewey that Roosevelt orders an attack on the Spanish fleet in the Philippines the very minute that war is officially declared... and that war is declared. Simple enough, right? Not really.

Except that this is July 1, 1898 and nobody has declared anything like war on the American side. The Paris negotiations are still in full sway.

McKinley's naval quarantine declaration for Cuba has been in decreed effect since March 20, 1898, but aside from stop and searches by the few US cruisers near Havana, there has been nothing like an effective American blockade in place, so the brigandage, smuggling, gun running and piracy around Cuba continues apace. The first American submarine attacks on ships in Cuban waters do not occur until August 1-2, 1898. Meanwhile, the Cortez, as irrational as the American Congress, goes through the motions of a debate. The naval blockade is declared null and void by the Spanish legislature on April Fool's Day, a formal declaration of challenge is legislated by the Cortez on April 30, 1898. That means Spanish warships will try to cross the US declared blockade line to test it at some unknown time in the future. The first US submarine goes to sea to hunt for such blockade runners on May 1,1898 and will have to wait for two months to see a Spanish warship put to sea to challenge the blockade. After the USS Chad torpedoes the Alfonso XII on August 1, 1898 and forces that ship to return to Havana for repairs, it is of course open season on anything and everything in the Caribbean (and the world) that flies the flag of Spain (official start of the war, according to International Law) but Dewey is off fighting the war in the Philippines a full week before it is officially declared on August 2, 1898!


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